Futur deck(s) token T.2 competitif?

J'ai regarder les cartes du type 2 du moment et si la on ajoute certaine cartes dark ascension j'ai quand même l'impression que la carte si dessous deviens très jouable, ou je me trompe?



si on ajoute à cette enchantement des cartes tels que:








Egalement des cartes de ce genre si ne sont pas mal:



Et enfin:



Avec toutes les cartes que je viens de vous rapeller, d'après vous quelle type de deck serais le plus stable?

-Mono blanc token
-Mono blanc myr token (avec les lords myr ect) / tempered steel
-Blanc/Noir/Vert PW tokens (sorin, elspeth, garruk et gideon)
-Blanc/Noir Aggro Sorin
-Vert/Blanc avec le land qui boost les crea (le land vert blanc inistrad)
-autre?

here is the decklist I've come up with, any ideas/ suggestions?


4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
4 Midnight Haunting
4 Gather the Townsfolk
2 Vault of the Archangel
1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
4 Lingering Souls
4 Intangible Virtue
2 Hero of Bladehold
4 Isolated Chapel
7 Plains
4 Swamp
4 Doomed Traveler
1 Geist-Honored Monk
1 Elspeth Tirel
2 Razorverge Thicket
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Doom Blade
1 Tribute to Hunger
2 Falkenrath Noble
7 Evolving Wilds
2 Tragic Slip
2 Shrine of Loyal Legions
SB: 1 Shrine of Loyal Legions
SB: 1 Doom Blade
SB: 2 Stony Silence
SB: 1 Geth's Verdict
SB: 2 Go for the Throat
SB: 2 Ray of Revelation
SB: 3 Curse of Death's Hold

4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
4 Midnight Haunting
4 Gather the Townsfolk
2 Vault of the Archangel
4 Lingering Souls
4 Intangible Virtue
3 Hero of Bladehold
4 Isolated Chapel
12 Plains
3 Swamp
4 Doomed Traveler
2 Evolving Wilds
3 Honor of the Pure
2 Increasing Devotion
4 Champion of the Parish
1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
SB: 2 Shrine of Loyal Legions
SB: 1 Go for the Throat
SB: 2 Falkenrath Noble
SB: 2 Curse of Death’s Hold
SB: 2 Tragic Slip
SB: 2 Oblivion Ring
SB: 2 Elspeth Tirel
SB: 2 Tribute to Hunger


PLEASE GIVE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS!!!

As we said, Blade Splicer instead of midnight haunting ... (more humans) ?

Hello america, i suppose you are Jace:)

I havn't test anything yet in standard, so i have no comment. But this is the list i will try to play with next thursday.

24 lands

4 isolated chapel
2 woodland cemetery
2 sunpetal grove
2 vault of the archangel
8 plain
4 swamp
2 forest

11 creatures

4 doomed traveler
4 blade splicer
2 hero of bladehold
1 Elesh Norn


4 artifacts

2 sword of war and peace
2 mortarpod

13 other spells

3 tragic sleep
4 midnight haunting
4 intangible vertue
2 timely renforcement

8 Planswalkers

3 Sorin, lord of Innistrad
3 Garruk relentless
2 Elspeth Tirel

moto: I've thought about that also, but the point is repeatedly made by eveybody else I've talked to that flying 1/1 white tokens are stronger than a 1/1 white creature and a 3/3 colorless token. also both creatures from blade splicer have different conditions for pumping. honor of the pure would only pump blade splicer while intangible vertue unly pumps the golem. also the instant speed nature of haunted crushes the sorcery speed blade splicer as haunted aviods a DOJ or BSZ

other person:
township and garruk -- although good -- is not worth a second splash, and vault can be better utilised against the currtent meta (at least as far as last weeks FNM is concearned). elesh norn requires 7 to cast and I rarely find the 5 needed. thank you for your comment though I will test this list a bit

what do people think about playing swords or mortar pod? are they needed? and if so, where could I fit them into my list

been testing following few games and lost only to mirran crusader + sword of war and peace

2 Vault of the Archangel
10 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Forest
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sunpetal grove
2 Evolving wilds

2 Doomed traveler
4 Champion of the parish
4 Gather the Townsfolk
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Mayor of avabruck
4 Lingering Souls
3 Timely reinforcments
2 Garuk, relentless
3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
2 Geist-Honored Monk
2 Elspeth Tirel
2 Increasing devotion


First thoughts :

- Mayor is not as good as I thought, you want him to stay unfliped to boost your humans but you also want him to be flipped to create tokens (wich never happens nearly)
- Timely is useless, used only once and gave me 3 tokens, not life
- vault of the archangel is damn good but i am affraid that with 2 color splashed i could have problems drawing colorless land.

I think I ll give a try removing green splash or at least changing the mayors. fresh meat seems very sexy as when you reach the 4 mana, you prefer not to commit too much and hold token generators in hand. if he sweeps the board while you have fresh meat in hand that s nearly game over for him.

Fresh meat is only good vs DOJ or BSZ, and you'll need 4 mana untapped. Perhaps in Sideboard x 2 because actually both cards are few played.

DOJ and BSZ are not played ??
and slagstorm ?

even whipflare starts to find rooms in some decks

and as I said the 4 mana are ok since you don't want to commit too much on the battelfield.
would not play 4 of but 2 should be ok

7 PWs who make tokens seems a good start to fight sweepers. but if you think you still have a problem with DoJ &Cie, don't bother you with Fresh Meat. this card could be nice in a deck which controls the way its creatures go to the graveyard (a sacrifice effect à la Awakening Zone for example). here, to be effective, it needs that you have it in hand (obv) AND your opp plays a mass removal AND you have 3G open. trust me, that's too much to be reliable.
Shrine of The Loyal Legion seems a better a way to explore.

black sun's zenith, life's finale, slagstorm, pyroclasm, day of judgement and others WILL be played (main deck?) soon with all those new aggro decks (human, tokens, vamp, zombie, weenie white, delver aggro, delver illusions and much more!!), so I think in the near future that fresh meat will be playable!

i KNOW i said it before and some disagree but falkenrath noble is my answer to DOJ and cards like it

falkenrath noble can be 'prevented' by your opponent, fresh meat can't