Masters Edition IV

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:
Du coup, en pariant sur la rapacité de WotC, je me suis fait avoir.

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:Ouaip... J'ai acheté un FTV pour avoir un Sol Ring pour mes EDH, en me disant que s'il était dans FTV, il ne serait pas dans MED IV, histoire de nous inciter à acheter un FTV.
Du coup, en pariant sur la rapacité de WotC, je me suis fait avoir.

arktos a écrit:Oui, ils ont poussé le vice jusqu'à proposer des FtV online...

arktos a écrit:Oui, ils ont poussé le vice jusqu'à proposer des FtV online...

hell_s_caretaker a écrit:- Des mythiques (que Wizards nous promet: «Rassurez-vous, les mythique ne seront pas des cartes que tout le monde voudra mettre en 4 exemplaires dans son deck !» mais oui bien sûr...)

I thought I'd spend a few paragraphs calrifying a couple things about mythic rares in particular. For starters, here is what I said in the column:

This now leads us to the next question: How are cards split between rare and mythic rare? Or more to the point, what kind of cards are going to become mythic rares? We want the flavor of mythic rare to be something that feels very special and unique. Generally speaking, we expect that to mean cards like planeswalkers, most legends, and epic-feeling creatures and spells. They will not just be a list of each set's most powerful tournament-level cards.

We've also decided that there are certain things we specifically do not want to be mythic rares. The largest category is utility cards, what I'll define as cards that fill a universal function. Some examples of this category would be cycles of dual lands and cards like Mutavault or Char. That also addresses a long-standing issue that some players have had with certain rares like dual lands. Because we're making fewer cards per set, in the new world individual rares will be easier to acquire because each rare in a large set now appears 25% more often.

Before I jump into what I said and didn't say, let me make this point clear. When I wrote this, R&D was still forming its ideas about what mythic rare was supposed to be. An important part of Magic design and development is allowing the game to adapt and evolve. Our ideas and beliefs shift as we get more information. I wrote this when R&D had zero feedback (from players, retailers, distributors, etc.) about mythic rares.

Now let me get to what was and wasn't said. A lot of people seem to want to attribute to me things I didn't actually say. For example, I did not say mythic rares wouldn't be powerful. I did not say mythic rares wouldn't ever be tournament-viable. I did not say that mythic rares would never have low mana costs. The dividing line that R&D made between rares and mythic rares was this (and yes, in retrospect I could have been a little clearer on this point): We wanted mythic rares to feel special. We wanted them to be cards that felt worthy of being mythic rare.

What we didn't want in mythic rare were spells that you saw all the time in lower rarities doing simple, plain things only cheaper and more powerfully. We shouldn't, as an example, print Naturalize for Green Mana and stick it in mythic rare. This is what I meant when I used the term "utility." Being powerful is not unto itself a reason to make a card mythic rare. In addition to that, we also didn't want to make a high percentage of the powerful cards in any one set mythic rares. If you broke down the best twenty cards of a set, we wanted them to fall in all four rarities, some of which would be mythic rare. Yes, M10 has Baneslayer Angel, but it also has Lightning Bolt. I do believe as Zendikar shakes out, you will see all four rarities making an impact in Constructed formats.

Is deciding what is rare and what is mythic rare an exact science? No. We are constantly fiddling with the line, because we are trying internally to get the right feel. There was some debate whether Lotus Cobra, as an example, was supposed to be rare or mythic rare. In the end, mythic rare won out because the majority believed that the potential to explosively cast large spells felt special. The card has the word Lotus in its name because it reminded many R&D members of Black Lotus, and it's hard to argue that that card wouldn't have been mythic rare if the rarity had existed in Alpha.

Another important point here is that the discussion isn't over. R&D hasn't set the line in stone (nor, for the record, do I ever expect us to). We are always looking for ways to make Magic better, and a big part of that is getting input from all of you. What feels right at mythic rare and what doesn't? What's special and what's run-of-the-mill? Just remember as we have this discussion that some cards have to be mythic rare, and yes, some of those—like any rarity—have to have value (a.k.a. people want to get them). That means that some of the mythic rares will be cards in high demand. That's how a trading card game works.

MaRo a écrit:

(and yes, in retrospect I could have been a little clearer on this point)

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:La quasi-intégralité de Masters Edition IV a été mise en ligne sur la base de données du site officiel, le Gatherer.

Alors, quelles sont les cartes dont le retour vous parle particulièrement ?

(Monty) The reason Gatherer claims that there are only 260 cards in ME4 is that each of the Urza lands appears four times.

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:Les FtV ne sont plus vendus en quantité limité sur MTGO (seul le premier l'a été, et ce fut un flop, vu qu'il s'en est vendu moins que la quantité prévue - et il n'était possible d'en acheter qu'un par jour, empêchant les magasins de tous les rafler), donc il n'est pas possible que les magasins achètent tous les exemplaires d'un tel produit.

Ben a écrit:J'ajouterai que ne pas mettre dans l'édition les Force of Will ne rend encore une fois pas service au Legacy.

Les daze sont à 10,5tix et out-of-stock en attendant Nemesis qui ne sortira pas avant la mi-2011 (de même qui rishadan port qui est indispensable à tout bon deck goblin) ...

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:

Ben a écrit:J'ajouterai que ne pas mettre dans l'édition les Force of Will ne rend encore une fois pas service au Legacy.

Ils ont annoncé il y a des plombes qu'ils ne mettraient plus jamais FoW dans une extension, mais qu'ils se gardaient la possibilité d'en faire des promos ou des dotations de tournois.

Les daze sont à 10,5tix et out-of-stock en attendant Nemesis qui ne sortira pas avant la mi-2011 (de même qui rishadan port qui est indispensable à tout bon deck goblin) ...

Daze et Rishadan Port ne sont sortis que dans une extension post-Mirage, donc pas de MED de toute façon.

Bref, la majorité des cartes que tu attendais ne pouvaient pas être imprimées dans MED4, et on le savait depuis le début.