Mirrodin Besieged

Emmanuelle et Emilien a écrit:

Nexus a écrit:wooohoooo vampire warrior?

Je ne vois aucun doigt-seringue ni aucun tuyau de traitement des fluides : ce n'est pas un vampire.
Elle a du métal en fusion sur le corps : c'est une vulshok.

Zaptain a écrit:briseur de reves...

Desmontor a écrit:oubliez les vampires et les merfolks, leur reigne s'arrête avec Mirrodin. Il reste les humains chevaliers, les elfes et les gobelins :p

Tezzeret the Seeker

One of the biggest design questions about this card is this: why isn't Tezzeret an artifact planeswalker? He is. Tezzeret is from the shard of Esper and every living creature on the shard has evolved into becoming an artifact. Then why isn't he an artifact planeswalker on the card? Interesting question. The answer actually comes in two parts.

The first issue actually happened back in Lorwyn development. The five original planeswalkers all have races—to the best of my knowledge they're four humans and a leonin, but don't take me as a definitive source as I have consulted absolutely no one. Why doesn't Ajani (either Ajani) say "Planeswalker – Ajani Cat" or possibly "Planeswalker – Cat Ajani"?

A) It sounds dumb.

B) The rules don't allow it. Cat is a creature subtype. The only way to use it on another card type (and yes, planeswalker is another card type) is to use tribal technology. That means that the card would have to read "Tribal Planeswalker – Ajani Cat". Assuming that all fits, it sounds even dumber than the type line I ripped on up in A).

C) The creative team felt strongly that the planeswalkers had to transcend their individual qualities. Ajani is not defined by being a leonin, but by being a planeswalker. The idea is once you get to that level, nothing else is relevant.

Now let's hop over to issue number two. What happens if we make an artifact planeswalker? I should stress that such a thing is possible in the rules. Two permanent types mixing works just fine. The issue isn't one of rules but of degeneracy. You see, one of the things that helps keep the planeswalker card type in check is that there are very few cards that let you manipulate them. We avoid a lot of shenanigans by simply not letting players do certain things to planeswalkers. But once we add "artifact" on the card, that no longer applies. Just put the word "artifact" in Gatherer (searching rules text only) to see all the nuttiness we've let you do to them over the years. Even if we were philosophically okay with having artifact on the card, the degeneracy would probably force development to yank it.

So to sum up, Tezzeret is not an artifact because we don't want him to be, and we couldn't allow him to be even if we were okay with it.

Ben a écrit:
Et sérieux, je fais de 1000x plus belles proxies que ça , c'est du sur-fake dégueulasse fait avec un proxy generator, sûrement pas photoshop ...

One of the running jokes in design is that it's very easy for design to take credit for the successes and pass off blame to development for the mistakes. ("It's their job to catch our mistakes.") Design, though, has to suck it up for Liquimetal Coating. We messed this one up big time and while development didn't stop it, I feel the blame is squarely on our shoulders.

What am I talking about? This card should only have targeted creatures. Why I appreciate all the fun shenanigans the current version allows, it does all sorts of color pie breaking that it just shouldn't. Red is supposed to have an issue with enchantments, as the best example. The fact that this card can just work around that so easily is a design mistake. In fact, if I were allowed to snap my fingers and just have one change retroactively happen, this card would be it.

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