[ZEN] PRJ's draft on scg

Zendikar 8-4 Draft de Peter Jahn sur scg. Il précise que ce n’est que sa 2nde draft (et en plus il raredraft). Mes picks et commentaires sont précédés de -->

Pack 1 pick 1: Desecrated Earth, Explorer\'s Scope, Kazandu Refuge, Ruinous Minotaur, Hideous End, Murasa Pyromancer, Swamp, Into the Roil, Predatory Urge, Timbermaw Larva, Lethargy Trap, Nissa\'s Chosen, Goblin Bushwhacker, Vampire Hexmage, Bold Defense
My pick: Hideous End
Removal. Everything here looks pretty straightforward, with the exception of Explorer’s Scope and the Pyromancer. The scope appears to be highly playable – or, at the least, I have seen good players maindecking it. At GP: Tampa, Nassif did not maindeck it in his RW deck, while Tom Ross did. Ross’s deck also had a higher curve, but about the same number of landfall cards. Maybe the biggest difference was number of lands – Nassif ran 17, while Ross ran 19. Ross’s odds of triggering the Scope are a bit higher. Or maybe the Scope is just marginal.
In short – I don’t know, yet.
The Pyromancer is, obviously, really good in an allies deck. It also costs a lot of mana, and the one Tampa player who ran two was eliminated immediately. The question is, is this better than Hideous Laughter?
--> Hideous End. Y’a pas match.

Pack 1 pick 2: Kor Skyfisher (FOIL), Magma Rift, Relic Crush, Quest for the Gemblades, Swamp, Savage Silhouette, Nimbus Wings, Spell Pierce, Mindless Null, Reckless Scholar, Blazing Torch, Feast of Blood, Giant Scorpion, Kabira Crossroads
My pick: Blazing Torch
My reasoning: Mindless Null isn’t a second pick. Feast of Blood may table if no one is playing Vampires – if not, I probably wouldn’t get enough Vampires to make it castable, anyway. Reckless Scholar, Magma Rift and Blazing Torch are all good, and Torch does not lock me into a color.
--> Blazing Torch. Par contre les autres picks possibles ama sont skyfisher (‘tain foil pour l’EDH) et scorpion.

Pack 1 pick 3: Pillarfield Ox, Kor Aeronaut, Plated Geopede, Greenweaver Druid, Nimana Sell-Sword, Explorer\'s Scope, Oran-Rief Recluse, Seascape Aerialist, Vines of Vastwood, Surrakar Marauder, Sky Ruin Drake, Heartstabber Mosquito, Plains
My pick: Heartstabber Mosquito
Nekrataal was always good. My only question is whether I can get to seven mana, but it is a 2/2 flier for four, if necessary. I probably would be happier in red. Pyromancer / Magma Rift / Plated Geopede – next pack Spire Barrage, than Puma. It’s easy with hindsight, but should I have seen that, and when?
--> Surrakar Marauder. En vrai je prends la geopede, mais pour l’exercice je reste en B pour ne pas trop diverger de ses picks. Ama moustique est naze si tu le kickes pas. Et 7 pour kicker c’est chaud dans ce format. Par contre intimidate c’est fort.

Pack 1 pick 4: Spire Barrage, Slaughter Cry, Kor Outfitter, Vampire Lacerator, Trapfinder\'s Trick, Shoal Serpent (FOIL), Soaring Seacliff, Vampire\'s Bite, Island, Beast Hunt, Goblin Ruinblaster, Quest for Pure Flame
My pick: Vampire Lacerator
Fast Black seems good. I also see a red burn spell. Is that a signal the Red is open, or is Spire Barrage just too expensive to pick early?
--> Vampire Lacerator

Pack 1 pick 5: Stonework Puma, Ruinous Minotaur, Paralyzing Grasp, Pillarfield Ox, Turntimber Grove, Gomazoa, Swamp, Narrow Escape, Grazing Gladehart, Desecrated Earth, Jwar Isle Refuge
My pick: Grazing Gladehart
Here’s the first pick where I was really uncertain. No good Black – Desecrated Earth isn’t exciting, is it? Turntimber Grove is playable just as a sorcery-speed pump, while Stonework Puma is at least a grey ogre. Gladehart is often worth a few life points, but means that I would be black green. Is Black/Green a good combination? No idea.
--> Grazing Gladehart. Mais sinon ç’eut été gomazoa.

Pack 1 pick 6: Adventuring Gear, Cancel, Mire Blight, Zendikar Farguide, Cliff Threader, Shieldmate\'s Blessing, Hedron Crab, Bog Tatters, Jwar Isle Refuge, Plains
My pick: Zendikar Farguide
Is Bog Tatters the pick? I thought that, in a format with lots of 2/1s and 2/2s, that a 3/3 can be a decent wall, if nothing else. Is Hedron Crab a signal? Should I have taken something else? Tell me in the forums.
--> Adventuring Gear. À part Polype, y’a qq1 qui aurait pris la 3/3 forestwalk là

Pack 1 pick 7: Trapmaker\'s Snare, Island, Tempest Owl, Quest for the Holy Relic, Ior Ruin Expedition, Khalni Heart Expedition, Mindless Null, Sunspring Expedition, Soul Stair Expedition
My pick: Khalni Heart Expedition
I’m cementing myself into GB. I have had very good results / luck with KHE. Soul Stair Expedition is nice for returning bombs, but I have had more use for a double landfall trigger than a double Raise Dead. KHE also enables a splash, if I get passed more burn spells, for example.
--> Khalni Heart Expedition.

Pack 1 pick 8: Graypelt Refuge, Blood Seeker, Quest for Ancient Secrets, Tanglesap, Lethargy Trap, Ondu Cleric, Forest, Goblin Shortcutter
My pick: Blood Seeker
Nothing to exciting about the pick – the 1/1 comes down early, and usually pings the opponent for a couple points. I just wonder if I should be reading any kind of signals here. There are decent red and white cards here – not great, but decent. Does that signify a color being underdrafted, or is Zendikar a lot deeper than the sets I have been drafting recently (namely M10 and MEDIII)?
--> Blood Seeker

Pack 1 pick 9: Desecrated Earth, Swamp, Into the Roil, Lethargy Trap, Nissa\'s Chosen, Goblin Bushwhacker, Bold Defense
My pick: Nissa\'s Chosen
--> Nissa\'s Chosen.

Pack 1 pick 10: Relic Crush, Swamp, Savage Silhouette, Spell Pierce, Mindless Null, Kabira Crossroads
My pick: Mindless Null
--> Savage Silhouette.

Pack 1 pick 11: Explorer\'s Scope, Oran-Rief Recluse, Seascape Aerialist, Sky Ruin Drake, Plains
My pick: Oran-Rief Recluse
Is it strange that a 2/5 flier is still here? Should I take the Scope?
--> Oran-Rief Recluse

Rest of the pack: Shoal Serpent (FOIL), Swamp, Plains, Sunspring Expedition

--> on en est donc là:
B Vampire Lacerator
1B Blood Seeker
1B Surrakar Marauder
GG Nissa\'s Chosen
2G Oran-Rief Recluse
2G Grazing Gladehart
1 Adventuring Gear
1 Blazing Torch
1G Savage Silhouette.
1G Khalni Heart Expedition
1BB Hideous End
Je trouve que ça part franchement pas mal.


Pack 2 pick 1: Goblin Ruinblaster, Adventuring Gear, Heartstabber Mosquito, Brave the Elements, Bladetusk Boar, Kor Skyfisher, Oran-Rief Recluse, Plains, Nimana Sell-Sword, Whiplash Trap, Vampire Hexmage, Tuktuk Grunts, Umara Raptor, Arid Mesa, Vastwood Gorger
My pick: Arid Mesa
If I hadn’t gone with the rare-draft, should I have gone with the Mosquito or Sell-Sword? I would have taken the Mosquito.
--> Vampire Hexmage. C’est un peu tendu pour la mana mais sinon il me semble que c’est nettement au dessus des 2 autres picks B sur lesquels il s’interroge.

Pack 2 pick 2: Caller of Gales, Torch Slinger, Tajuru Archer, Mountain, Oran-Rief Recluse, Needlebite Trap, Caravan Hurda, Narrow Escape, Kraken Hatchling, Hellfire Mongrel, Steppe Lynx, Umara Raptor, Goblin War Paint, Seismic Shudder
My pick: Oran-Rief Recluse
Here’s where my ignorance is probably showing. I don’t think I can splash for RR for the Slinger. Archer seems marginal without a lot of other allies. I simply have no idea if Needlebite Trap is playable. What should I have taken?
--> Oran-Rief Recluse. Bien miteux ce pack…

Pack 2 pick 3: Vines of Vastwood, Torch Slinger, Bold Defense, Sky Ruin Drake, Shatterskull Giant, Mind Sludge, River Boa, Nimana Sell-Sword, Soaring Seacliff, Expedition Map, Into the Roil, Crypt Ripper, Forest
My pick: River Boa
About this time I was kicking myself for not taking the first Sell-Sword, since I could have had three straight allies. I figured this pack came down to Boa, Mind Sludge and Vines. My curve was short of early drops, here, so I took the Boa. Is there a better option?
--> River Boa. Comme lui, j’hésite sur sludge et vines. Mais meme si ce n’est pas le cas ici, je me rappelle que j’ai parfois du mal à avoir assez de betes à la fin.

Pack 2 pick 4: Trailblazer\'s Boots, Tanglesap, Stonework Puma, Shatterskull Giant, Spreading Seas, Ravenous Trap, Into the Roil, Makindi Shieldmate, Mark of Mutiny, Mountain, Grazing Gladehart, Bold Defense
My pick: Grazing Gladehart
In the What Could Have Been – another ally. Still, 2 Gladeharts and the KHE could make opposing beatdown decks sad…
--> Grazing Gladehart

Pack 2 pick 5: Geyser Glider, Tuktuk Grunts, Soul Stair Expedition, Island, Quest for the Gemblades, Steppe Lynx, Molten Ravager, Hagra Diabolist, Trapfinder\'s Trick, Shieldmate\'s Blessing, Shoal Serpent
My pick: Hagra Diabolist
What should I have seen? Should I have switched to red, and had Torch Slinger, Torch Slinger, Geyser Glider or Tuktuk Grunts? Should I have gone Allies earlier?
--> Quest for the Gemblades. Le diabolist est defendable. Mais j’ai pris aucun ally jusque là. Par contre j’ai masse critters qui adoreront prendre +4/+4. c’est ici que je vois que le R est open à cause du glider (pour rappel en vrai, j’aurais probablement été R après la geopede)

Pack 2 pick 6: Island, Graypelt Refuge, Giant Scorpion, Merfolk Wayfinder, Adventuring Gear, Tuktuk Grunts, Ior Ruin Expedition, Savage Silhouette, Khalni Heart Expedition (FOIL), Blood Tribute
My pick: Khalni Heart Expedition
I’m way to short on Vampires for the six mana Drain Life. Yet another Grunts – these are put here to remind me that I could have been drafting Allies. Giant Scorpion is another option – is it better? I seem to be setting up a lot of landfall, but don’t have much to do with it, yet.
--> Giant Scorpion. Ça parait assez évident qu’il ne connaît pas le format. Le scorpion est tres bon et picker des KHE sans harrow en se disant qu’on pourra éventuellement splasher se révèle souvent une mauvaise idée.

Pack 2 pick 7: Goblin Bushwhacker, Goblin War Paint, Lethargy Trap, Quest for Pure Flame, Expedition Map, Spire Barrage, Forest, Hedron Scrabbler, Ondu Cleric
My pick: Forest
I so should have switched to Red. Is Hedron Scrabbler ever playable?
--> Expedition Map. Mais ça aurait pu etre Forest

Pack 2 pick 8: Windrider Eel, Turntimber Basilisk, Giant Scorpion, Torch Slinger, Spidersilk Net, Plains, Savage Silhouette, Unstable Footing
My pick: Turntimber Basilisk
Should Windrider Eel still be here? This is/was an 8-4! Yet another Torch Slinger – the change to red would have been awesome.
--> Giant Scorpion. Le scorpion bloque nettement mieux que le basilisk mais je ne suis clairement pas certain d’avoir raison sur ce pick

Pack 2 pick 9: Goblin Ruinblaster, Adventuring Gear, Brave the Elements, Plains, Whiplash Trap, Tuktuk Grunts, Vastwood Gorger
My pick: Adventuring Gear
Both Red and allies are tabling. Should I have known? Where did I miss the signal?
--> Vastwood Gorger. J’ai déjà un gear mais pas de thon, mais pas certain de faire le bon choix

Pack 2 pick 10: Caller of Gales, Mountain, Caravan Hurda, Narrow Escape, Goblin War Paint, Seismic Shudder
My pick: Caravan Hurda
Not playing any of these, and Hurda is just a pain to face.
--> Caravan Hurda

Pack 2 pick 11: Bold Defense, Sky Ruin Drake, Soaring Seacliff, Expedition Map, Forest
My pick: Sky Ruin Drake
This is the sort of thing that has me really confused about drafting Zendikar. This is a 2/5 flier for 5, and no one wants it? Is everyone stuck in other colors? Is it really that bad or do mana curves top at 4? Second question – should I have taken the Seacliff here, to loft one of my dudes?
--> Sky Ruin Drake

Rest of the Pack: land, land, land, Goblin War Paint

--> on est tjs assez frais:
B Vampire Lacerator
1B Blood Seeker
1B Surrakar Marauder
BB Vampire Hexmage
1G River Boa
GG Nissa\'s Chosen
2G Oran-Rief Recluse x2
2G Grazing Gladehart x2
2B Giant Scorpion x2
5G Vastwood Gorger
1 Adventuring Gear
1 Blazing Torch
1G Savage Silhouette.
1G Khalni Heart Expedition
1G Quest for the Gemblades
1BB Hideous End
Qq betes plus grosses et 1-2 removals sur la liste des courses.

Pack 3 pick 1: Joraga Bard, Spidersilk Net (FOIL), Merfolk Wayfinder, Oran-Rief Survivalist, Slaughter Cry, Roil Elemental, Sunspring Expedition, Shoal Serpent, Steppe Lynx, Grim Discovery, Swamp, Umara Raptor, Sejiri Refuge, Vampire Lacerator, Vampire Nighthawk
My pick: Roil Elemental
Vampire Nighthawk is nuts, but Roil Elemental is awfully good, and I still have just one terror, plus the kicker on the Recluse, to kill it. Raredrafting it seems the best option – at least for my collection.
--> Vampire Nighthawk. Un vaste nawak son pick d’elemental là.

Pack 3 pick 2: Forest, Vastwood Gorger, Spidersilk Net, Nimana Sell-Sword, Welkin Tern, Adventuring Gear, Greenweaver Druid, Punishing Fire, Kor Sanctifiers, Guul Draz Specter, Sky Ruin Drake, Highland Berserker, Turntimber Basilisk, Journey to Nowhere
My pick: Guul Draz Specter
It’s the rare, but it is also probably the best pick in my colors.
--> Guul Draz Specter. Mais avant je calcule mes chances de splasher Journey.

Pack 3 pick 3: Cliff Threader, Mind Sludge, Baloth Woodcrasher, Hagra Crocodile, Mold Shambler, Magma Rift, Kabira Crossroads, Windrider Eel, Mire Blight, Zendikar Farguide, Seascape Aerialist, Khalni Heart Expedition, Plains
My pick: Baloth Woodcrasher
Look at the Red...
--> Baloth Woodcrasher. Dommage pour le sludge, mais je fais mon marché et sur ma liste il faut du thon. Je pense que je viens d’en pecher un de premiere qualité.

Pack 3 pick 4: Piranha Marsh, Sky Ruin Drake, Mountain, Baloth Cage Trap, Spreading Seas, Landbind Ritual, Guul Draz Vampire, Journey to Nowhere, Seismic Shudder, Nissa\'s Chosen, Cliff Threader, Windborne Charge
My pick: Baloth Cage Trap
I think I had given up at this point. Guul Draz Vampire is better, but the Cage Trap is uncommon.
--> Guul Draz Vampire. Ah splasher Journey…

Pack 3 pick 5: Crypt of Agadeem, Teetering Peaks, Forest, Kabira Crossroads, Expedition Map, Reckless Scholar, Hagra Crocodile, Territorial Baloth, Arrow Volley Trap, Vastwood Gorger, Trailblazer\'s Boots
My pick: Territorial Baloth
--> Hagra Crocodile pour remplir la curve à 4

Pack 3 pick 6: Brave the Elements, Island, Ruinous Minotaur, Tempest Owl, Pillarfield Ox, Hedron Scrabbler, Windborne Charge, Mire Blight, Scythe Tiger, Archmage Ascension
My pick: Archmage Ascension
--> Windborne Charge. Contredraft (t’façon y’a rien pour moi). Cette carte peut me ruiner.

Pack 3 pick 7: Spidersilk Net, Caller of Gales, Desecrated Earth, Ior Ruin Expedition, Narrow Escape, Forest, Primal Bellow, Turntimber Grove, Gomazoa
My pick: Primal Bellow
This is the first pump spell I picked, and the first I saw, if I recall correctly, in the entire draft. Looks like I was being cut. No - I lie, I passed a Vines, above.
--> Primal Bellow. Comme il dit, c’est le premier pump que je picke. Mes adv attendent qu’un deck G joue des pump. Faudrait pas les décevoir…

Pack 3 pick 8: Makindi Shieldmate, Caller of Gales, Turntimber Grove, Kor Aeronaut, Aether Figment, Teetering Peaks, Mountain, Whiplash Trap
My pick: Kor Aeronaut
Turntimber Grove?
--> Whiplash Trap. Contredraft (sinon c’était l’aeronaut, un autre contredraft). Vu le faible cout de mes betes, je pourrais me faire atTRAPpé un peu trop facilement.

Pack 3 pick 9: Joraga Bard, Spidersilk Net (FOIL), Merfolk Wayfinder, Slaughter Cry, Sunspring Expedition, Shoal Serpent, Swamp
My pick: Joraga Bard
--> Shoal Serpent. Osef du barde, je le jouerai pas. Par contre une 5/5 en face peut me gonfler.

Pack 3 pick 10: Forest, Spidersilk Net, Adventuring Gear, Greenweaver Druid, Sky Ruin Drake, Turntimber Basilisk
My pick: Turntimber Basilisk
--> Turntimber Basilisk. C’est le 3e deathtouch. Peut etre que l’aura +2/+2 regen va etre importante…

Pack 3 pick 11: Kabira Crossroads, Windrider Eel, Mire Blight, Zendikar Farguide, Plains
My pick: Windrider Eel
Another 11th pick flier. Is this right, or is this draft strange?
--> Windrider Eel. Par contre ici j’envisage sérieusement la 3/3 en side.

Pack 3 pick 12: Mountain, Spreading Seas, Landbind Ritual, Nissa\'s Chosen
My pick: Nissa\'s Chosen
--> Nissa\'s Chosen. complètement inespéré à ce niveau..

Rest of Pack 3: Forest, Tempest Owl, Caller of Gales

Et avec ça je pense qu’on peut y aller confiant:

B Vampire Lacerator
B Guul Draz Vampire
1B Surrakar Marauder
1G River Boa
BB Vampire Hexmage
GG Nissa\'s Chosen x2
2G Grazing Gladehart x2
2B Giant Scorpion x2
1GG Turntimber Basilisk
1BB Vampire Nighthawk
3B Hagra Crocodile
2BB Guul Draz Specter
4GG Baloth Woodcrasher

1 Adventuring Gear
1 Blazing Torch
G Primal Bellow
1G Savage Silhouette.
1G Quest for the Gemblades
1BB Hideous End

9 swamp
9 forest

Side:
Expedition Map, Caravan Hurda, Sky Ruin Drake, Windborne Charge, Whiplash Trap, Shoal Serpent, Windrider Eel
1B Blood Seeker
2G Oran-Rief Recluse x2
5G Vastwood Gorger
1G Khalni Heart Expedition

PS: ce soir je ferais bien une team draft.

C'est pénible à lire au possible. Mettre des espaces de temps à autre aurait aidé. J'ai pas pu finir le premier booster. En plus c'est un gros naze...

Je remanie ça avec les images des cartes. Se sera fait dans 20 min.
Mais j'avoue que ce mec est une daube. Poster une draft sur SCG quand c'est ta 2ème draft ça me semble un peu nawak.

EDIT : Trop chiant de remplacer toute les images en fait, juste ajouté du gras/italique pour rendre le truc plus lisible.

Yop, moi j'ai lu jusqu'au bout !!!
Et bien comme toi nico, je pense que j'aurais switché R avec le geopede...

je crois que si Joey avait remplacé le nom des cartes par des images, j'aurais supprimer mon post. tout l'interet pour moi est justement qu'il n'y a pas ces putains d'images filtrées qui font que, la plupart du temps, j'ai l'impression du suivre une draft de Croix Rouge: l'Asssemblée.

sorry pour la mise en page. sur word c'était pourtant lisible...

Nico Truc a écrit:j'ai l'impression du suivre une draft de Croix Rouge: l'Asssemblée.

Perso, et depuis déjà 37 ans, je préfère aussi les beaux textes aux jolies images.

Zaamu a écrit:Perso, et depuis déjà 37 ans, je préfère aussi les beaux textes aux jolies images.

genre, tu veux nous faire croire que dans Playboy, c'est les articles qui t'interessent

Nico Truc a écrit:

Zaamu a écrit:Perso, et depuis déjà 37 ans, je préfère aussi les beaux textes aux jolies images.

genre, tu veux nous faire croire que dans Playboy, c'est les articles qui t'interessent

Je ne lis pas ce genre de "littérature".

En tout cas, plus depuis que j'ai Internet.